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Tonight, our incredible conversation with author, activist, and whistleblower Sarah Edmondson continues on The Spark. Sarah details her awakening from within the NXIVM cult that began with reconciling what she thought about the organization with the disturbing things she was witnessing, and how she bandied a group of friends together to take the organization down. We also hear from Sarah's husband Anthony "Nippy" Ames and gain some of his perspective about their powerful experience.

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